Savage 87n Manual
Coop02 Your Springfield 87 is as old as I am. I bought the 'newer' model Springfield 187 in 1959. In those days I was always short on money and shot a lot of 22 longs in the rifle and finally messed up the feed mechanism.
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The repair gunsmith warned me to shoot only long rifles in the future. I discovered the single shot locking mechanism by accident when cleaning the rifle many years later.
By then I didn't have to worry about the difference in cost between longs and long rifles. This is the only rimfire rifle that will shoot Remington Golden Bullets worth anything.
I haven't tried this rifle in ten years so don't know how it will do with present production Golden Bullets. Presently the rifle wears a Leupold M7-4X (Model Seven - pre Gold Ring) with a horizontal crosshair and tapered post. Thanks for the memories!
QUOTE=bob hardy;2103011Nice shooting Kaintuck. Were you shooting in s.a. Mode or 'bolt action?' In semi mode.with a older 87a.and 99, i know a kentucky pawnshop that has a 87a with NO slots in the receiver, and factory pre-war peeps/and insert front sights but he wants $300 and wont budge.boy would i love her in my group!!! Never have seen that type before!!!.sigh.let me ramble. “GillGuns”or “ClackityClacks: Stevens had a brand of rifles named “Springfield Arms Co.”, this was merely a brand manufactured in their own factory. Savage bought out Stevens in 1920.
The 87's were a mostly cheaper model with Beech or Birchwood stained to look walnut, they were copied from the 1936-1947 model's Buckhorn 76 and 076(best sights). Anything Buckhorn, was supposed to be a better rifle wood, sights, etc. Pre-war models sport the checkering on the grip areas. The different models had small changes, i.e. Trigger guards, painted stocks, even 'tenite' i.e. Plastic stock etc. The models with the 'square' receiver ends will be what I discuss and “collect”: (87)A,AB,AT,B,C,D,K(carbine model).
Then the rifle was changed somewhere around 1958 to have a sloped rear receiver endcap, but it still screwed in, sometimes with the safety on this cap, and in some models, the safety was still on the receiver.models 87E,KE,J,N,187E,187H,188Hto me, the rifle then lost it’s “flavor” of the past. And we also know that the war era spawned the 87M,(musket), A HIGH PRICED Garrand copy, it used the 87's basic features, with special peep sights, full wood, sometimes referred to in a magazine add as a “musket”. 'It is probable that in this time (1940) the Springfield 87M was developed as a military-type training rifle.' 'Its walnut stock and handguard resembled the Garrand's wood; its tubular magazine had to be withdrawn for loading; its utility was questionable and its production run short. The 87M is seldom encountered today in original configuration.
After the war the 87M resurfaced in the Sears Roebuck catalog as the Ranger Model 101.22.' There are some numbers stamped into the wood at the butt of these, maybe, just maybe relating to the total number made???? (additionally, there is a 1960's roll stamped 87M that looks like the 87H modelstandard looking 22 stevens) There was also a short lived 'gallery' shorts only model 872(Savage 602,Ranger model 101.10) circa 19401946. These have special “guts’lightened hammers and bolts and springs to offset the smaller recoil impluse of the 22 short. The 'clip' models were the same receiver etc as the mag tube models.with different lower cut-outs, (the receivers will not interchange with 87’s) only named 85's.85, 85A, 85K(carbine model)circa 1939-1961. Similar models were Stevens Buckhorn 57, & 057 circa 1939-1947, and the 850. Sears had their models stamped ranger 101.a Ranger 101.16 is a Savage 6, or Stevens 87, Sears 232 or 233 is a Stevens 87, westerfield had a 87 marked 808.
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Coast to coast 288, westpoint 287, hiawatha 189-J, hiawatha 189-N & westerfield 808-N. 87J=B-964 belknap, 87N=B-964 belknap. In May 1938 Savage made the 6 series6A,AB,B,C (cheek piece model) D,S (factory installed peep sights) The 7 was the 'clip' model7, 7A, 7S(peep sights).
The factory scoped models were 6E, 6H, 6DL, 6J, 6M, 6N, 6JDL, and 6P. The 6D came out in 1955. It had a grooved receiver for the tip-off mounts(starting circa 1954). So, I THINK that the 87 started in 1938 and ended with model changes 1961.
These changes appeared to be the sloped rear cap, less 'fins' on the left of the receiver, and wood finishes. Some of the Sears “Ranger” models had no “gills” at all in the receiver, one example I know of is without “gills” but has factory D&T holes. They look good when they scope mounted with the T and N mounts and a old weaver 29S(1937) or even the cheaper weavers G (1947) B (1953) series. (Try Numrich Gunparts - I bought a Weaver accessory scope mount base plate which according to instruction sheet fits many of the Savage 6A variants - it matched the predrilled/plugged holes on our 'Ranger 101.16/ Savage 6A' perfectly.
Part Number 573370 - not shown in their on-line catalog.) I think Savage started selling scopes and mounts in 1936 and D&T'ed the receivers in 1937. The receivers were D&T'ed with two hole for the Weaver T mount. After WWII Weaver came out with the N mount which had four holes. Looking in the scope book, I see that the 'S' mount was first used in 1934 and the 'T' was added in 1939.
Both scopes line up on the C/L of the bore. Mounting hole spacing of both is approx. The S-1 is called the low (C/L to T/Receiver=.5'), and the S-3 (C/L to T/Receiver=1.0') is the high mount. These mounts are shown on page 263 & 269 in Nick Stroebel's book, 'Old Rifle Scopes. I don't know if there ever was a S-2 mount, or how it differed from the S-1 & S-3 mounts. The 150 Savage peep sight with two holes will fit those two holes on the left rear receiver in the 87’s & 85’s. Notice too.as we get toward the end of the era, the cheaper manufacturing techniques,i.e.
Aluminum mag tubes etc.I have a assortment of bolts, hammers, etc and some extractors are deeper cut, some shallow, some no longer spring loaded little hooks, but a one piece spring clip.also the EARLY 87's had no peep sight or 'n' scope mount holes on the receiver, and I have examined on early model with NO slots and a factory mounted pre-war peep and insert front sight. BUT, nothing is sure here.ALL records are lost, I have been taking notes and old magazine adds to get my infoand last but not least.the company used what it had.as I have a factory 87K with a barrel mark 'D' on it.
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Marks on barrels may help too in the manufacture dateUtica NY until 1947, Chicopee Falls until 1960, Westfield after that. The german’s Krico and also the High Standard company also ‘copied’ the design in 1960-1975 with their ‘Sport King ‘ models, 4 versions, field, special, carbine, and deluxe. Slightly different looks.but the same engineering,(This model evolved from the Sears J.
Higgins Model 25 which High Standard designed for Sears. A reworked Savage, Stevens, Springfield design was the basis for this model. The A-1041 was the final variation of this design produced by High Standard.).I wonder how they got away with it! Additional notes: Pioneer Hardware 27A=stevens 87A Belknap 964A = Stevens 87N Belknap B964 = Savage 87J Belnap B967 = Savage 87N Coast to Coast 288 = Savage 87J Cotter & Co 168 = Springfield 87J C.I.L 212 = Savage 7J C.I.L. 221 = Savage 7J Gamble Skogkmo 189N = Stevens 87N Palmetto 11 = Stevens 85 Thanks be to’ Savage99’, & ‘Sarge’ & ’Fatstrat’ ‘22AGS’ ‘Flysalot’and others for this infoAlso info from the book “Savage and Stevens Arms” by Jay Kimmel ISBN number: 0-942893-00-x And of coarse Numrich Arms. Kaintuck, Great Info.
I'm wondering if you and the others on this forum could look at this link and maybe give me some reference info about the rifle. It appears to be a Savage 87 but the stock is very different. I've not seen one before and can find no reference to it anywhere. The barrel is marked Gamble Pioneer 27A.
It is complete except for the front barrel band and the sling swivels. It fires and cycles perfectly. The last 6 pics are from a friend on another forum who also owns one of these. He said that he has only seen 3 in his collecting years. Have you seen any written refs on this model or know when it was manufactured?
Sure would like to find that barrel band!! Coop Thanks for the scan of the manual! One feature not mentioned yet is the adjustable receiver plug. Note the captive ball bearing in the plug that fits the radial grooves in the seat. This seems to be an action adjustment to compensate for various ammo brands of LR.
Basil, Unfortunately, that seems to be urban legend, none of the old manuals or marketing ads mention it, when it would have been a really big selling point. Some of us even tried it, starting with ammo that wouldn't feed and backing out a couple clicks at a time.
The detent ball and notches are just to keep the plug from backing out, just like the detent and notches on a shotgun magazine tube. I really wish it had worked that way, I'd love to be able to get any one of mine to cycle CBees or CB long/shorts, but it didn't work out.
Arthur William Savage (1857 - 1938), a native of Kingston, Jamaica, set out to design a repeating rifle based on the British Martini-Henry single-shot breechloader. In the process, he founded an internationally-known arms corporation that bears his name. After holding jobs as a graphic artist in London, cattle rancher in Australia, and coffee plantation manager in Jamaica, Savage moved to New York City, where, in June 1877, he filed a patent application for a repeating rifle with a two-piece pivoting breechblock and a tubular magazine located in the buttstock. In November of that year, he filed a second patent application for a simplified one-piece breech mechanism with a longitudinal hole to accommodate the passage of cartridges from the magazine to the chamber. Savage later abandoned the Martini action in favor of his own hammerless lever-action design, which featured a downward-tilting breechblock and rotary-spool magazine. His initial patent application was filed on April 10, 1889, but no models were produced until 1892, when a group of businessmen in Utica, New York agreed to back the development of a rotary-magazine rifle.
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Savage filed two additional patent applications in February, 1892; the first of which was for a.30-40 military rifle, and the second for a smaller sporting arm. The Savage military rifle was submitted to the Army's 1892 Ordnance trials, where it was rejected in favor of the bolt-action Krag-Jorgensen rifle. Savage turned his efforts to his civilian sporter design, which became the Model 1895 Savage rifle.
The Savage Repeating Arms Company was formed in Utica in April 1894, and was reorganized as the Savage Arms Company in 1897, with Arthur Savage serving as general manager. The Model 1895 rifle was produced by John Marlin, and.303 Savage ammunition was manufactured by Union Metallic Cartridge. In 1899, Arthur Savage received a patent for an improved cocking indicator, and this feature became standard in the Model 1899 Savage Rifle. The Model 99 is still manufactured today in a variety of calibers and features, with production totals of more than one million.
Significantly, no major changes have been made to Arthur Savage's original design. Early in the 20th century, Savage Arms diversified its product line with the introduction of the Model 1907 Auto Pistol. This.32 caliber handgun was based on the design of Elbert H. Searles and went on to enjoy great success, thanks in part to endorsements from well-known shooters such as 'Buffalo Bill' Cody, 'Bat' Masterson, and detectives William A. Pinkerton and William T.
A.45 caliber version competed unsuccessfully against Colt's.45 auto pistol in U.S. During this period, Savage also introduced a pump-action rifle and a single-shot bolt-action rifle, both in.22 caliber. These two longarms were Arthur Savage's last firearms designs. Arthur Savage continued as the firm's general manager until 1915, when Savage Arms Co. Was sold to Driggs-Seabury Corporation.
In 1917, the company's name was changed to Savage Arms Corporation. During the First World War, Savage's manufacturing facilities were turned to the manufacture of Lewis machine guns, and the production of civilian sporting arms was resumed in 1919. Arthur Savage retired to San Diego, California, where he became the first manufacturer of automobile tires west of the Mississippi River.
Savage Arms relocated to Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts in 1946 and began a close association with J. Stevens Arms Co. Savage later became a division of American Hardware Corporation until it was sold by its parent company in 1981. Since 1989, the firm has been known as Savage Arms Incorporated. In addition to the Model 99, Savage's product line includes a variety of inexpensive rifles and shotguns.